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welcome to tales from the rabbit hole

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I'm your host Mick West today's guest is

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Mike Rothschild Mike is a writer who is

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an expert on a variety of conspiracy

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theories in particular he's well known

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for investigating the queuing on

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conspiracy theory Mike is also famous

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for being the first person on tales from

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the rabbit hole to be interviewed more

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than once he's my very first repeat

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guest

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so Mike welcome to tales from the rabbit

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hole and thank you very much big here

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thanks I think you should is certainly

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the milestone for my podcast to have the

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same guest on twice and it was about

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four months ago I think that we we last

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spoke which is here quite a long time

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this is podcasting four years kind of

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seems like the same a loss has happened

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and because we were talking about cue

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and on and I asked you about you know

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what's he has has to have things change

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with keyonnah and use it quite a lot has

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changed what are the big things that

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changed in the last you know four months

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uh y-yeah a lot of lot of things have

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happened Hugh went pretty dark for a

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while over this early summer he stopped

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posting for about a month and I started

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to talk to some cute people and asked

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them you know are you still gonna

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believe in this if you never posts again

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and of course they all said yes of

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course you know we have everything we

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need well you know we'll keep doing our

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research and making our memes and and as

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soon as I published a story about it you

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started posting again yeah yeah yeah and

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then posted a whole lot over the next

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and then stopped posting again and it

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was about a week or two later that 8chan

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got in t platformed right so so now hn

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does not exist anymore and there have

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was really the way that was you could

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tell it was q because he had this unique

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identifier when he posted on

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on HN right yeah you kind of painted

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himself into a corner by having that

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unique identity but also by saying that

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the only place you would ever post

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should be hm

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so there's not really a way to kind of

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keep them at all be consistent without

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having a channel although I'm actually

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really surprised that the big Q and on

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colluded to start a new Q account and

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then all immediately agree oh this is

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the real Q I've got into information

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this is I think if that happened you

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it seems really obvious so maybe that's

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why I assume there's a bunch of people

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pretending to be cute have that do

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there was a R for a while and there was

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there was there been other you know fake

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of obvious they don't really seem like

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you but actually some of the q posts for

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a while really didn't seem like it was

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the same person and then they kind of

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got their voice back so I don't know who

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ever was handed the account off my back

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or better at it but yes so right now

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there hasn't been a new Q post in about

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a month do you know what the the last Q

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post was it was a portentous or very you

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all the other ones it was something

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about the Big D class the

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that didn't happen so you know when we

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spoke last the Miller report had just

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mulling around that lots of talk around

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that how did that kind of play out over

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the the next four months how did they

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rationalize what actually happened which

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another report array compared to other

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predictions the Q inmate before that

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- and he was a good guy and he was a bad

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guy good guy and I think the way it all

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kind of got written off it's the same

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way that everything gets written off

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that it was fake it was all part of the

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game it was all it's all designed to

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distract keep stayed and make them use

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up their ammo you know all this sort of

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most of the population goes oh there's a

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lot going on here and maybe we need some

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impeachment hearings to really get to

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the bottom of this and really force

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these people to testify and of course

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all the conspiracy theorists go no it's

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all part of the game it's all fake no

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dossier was fake the hearings are fake

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something and then looking at it the

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exact opposite way to make it your

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pathology I suppose if you if you

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is real like how can they know what cue

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says is real and everything else is fake

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but then cue say something and it turns

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out to be to not come to pass he

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predicts something and it doesn't happen

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right then and it's like a different

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interpretation of what Q says right and

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you would often say this information is

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necessary so it's basically we only

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got certain the hallmarks of an abusive

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relationship you know my partner is the

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only one who tells the truth but then

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he's gonna lie to me for my own good

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there's a real sort of damage psychology

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there yeah yeah I mean it's it's like a

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cult leader don't know where the cult

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the cult leader is an absence in your

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Manama the cult is leader is very

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present in a cult is in there with with

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his acolytes

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and but but here they give him the same

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deference even though that's not

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actually there and they don't even know

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who he is there anything at all about

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him they don't know anything about him

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and none of that deference is earned

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kind of maybe fit that but that all

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falls back into cold reading you know if

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got his who start yeah so I saw you

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what's what's up with that I have no

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idea what's going on with that I just

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none of whom could be trusted they're

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all faiths and she had a little Santa

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Claus in her avatar and I thought that's

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these other people with Santa Claus

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avatars and somebody who is a Q believer

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are stuff even in in Hue and on land and

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in conspiracy land where I I just I

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don't know what is going on with these

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thinking what what drugs they need to be

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on or what drugs we need to be on Nora

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just like that's too bizarre for me I

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right it's going to be what Q is or what

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are the mass execution yes it's pretty

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interesting I yeah it reminds me of like

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Pepe the Frog throw in a way yeah symbol

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what's they adopt a symbol and then they

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are they all using this to refer to

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yeah all of their simple their codes and

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their their hidden messages in their

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knowledge knowledge that and a lot blow

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the Pepe the Frog stuff I think was

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just people trawling no they had this

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this kick yeah yeah and it's like it's

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all it's all jargon it's all meant to

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confuse people who don't know what it

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means that kind of you know rile up the

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people who do know what it means because

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don't have a clue yeah yeah and that's

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religions a lot of cults work they make

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their own ranks and their own rules and

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their own structures and even you know

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if you don't it's just not one yeah we

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need to saying that remind me of another

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thing which is the storm area 51 things

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yes going on yeah that's another really

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fascinating math psychology experiment

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yeah it's and that kind of it has that

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kind of in speak as well it's gonna like

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ya got these nerd culture references but

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it's also got references to I think like

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in cell type stuff like with the Kyle

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thing is that in itself thing not in

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Kyle and I yes shine yeah yeah yeah

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yeah I mean it's just it's so it's just

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so bizarre and tangled up in itself and

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yeah and it's yeah but obviously there's

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a lot of people just doing it for having

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they're having fun the area 51 is a lot

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more fun but some people are gonna take

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you seriously

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oh yeah some some people are gonna show

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up and I think the guy who started it

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said right at the beginning this is a

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joke don't think yes and then a bunch of

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people that they were gonna show up and

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just trying to turn it into a concert or

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something yeah and with something like

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area 51 it's not really that mysterious

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anymore because so much of its been

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Declassified and you know you you had

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employees at the at the test site who've

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been free to talk to tell their stories

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and there's been a lot of documents have

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been released and we kind of basically

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what's happening there now this is so

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modified but we know when all you know

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the the cigar shaped UFO we know that

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that was the u2 and the triangle shaped

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UFOs the people - that was a stealth

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item we know we know what that stuff is

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now and the real stories are so much

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more interesting than me than the fake

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stories that people make up because they

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can't wrap their heads around the

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government doing something that they're

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trying to keep secret

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although aliens would be a pretty

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interesting story if they but in in

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absence of that I think the real story

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is being told by the people who worked

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at area 51 of the projects that have

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been worked and there are fastening yeah

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yeah and things like the skunk works in

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unifications and yeah yeah there's

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always this great stuff a lot of good

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interesting history there so you know

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something that happened recently was

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Comey was not prosecuted right for

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releasing a memo like he essentially

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leaked a memo to the press and via a

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friend and the Justice Department

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investigated it but they decided not to

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prosecute even though if they said he

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did wrong is this playing out at all in

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the the Q community yeah they're

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starting to they're you know it all gets

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wrapped up into the mythology that

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there's this very very slow-moving surge

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going on and what's interesting with

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homie stop is that it really kind of

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falls into the same stuff the story

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Clinton and the email server that what

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what in both cases you found that maybe

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protocol was broken or internal rules

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were broken but they didn't break a law

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there is no violation of federal code

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here so you can sort of verbally

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recommend somebody or you can release or

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that says they did something they

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weren't supposed to do but it was a

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crime and people thought that Comey was

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going to be dragged out and Cheney was

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gonna be thrown and get-go now I mean

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you could really make the case that it

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was Tomi's letter right before the

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election that threw the whole election

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the trunk so you know one of the things

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that never understood human

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why you have so much abilify in James

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Cogan James Comey is arguably one of the

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biggest reasons why Donald Trump is

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president and it's this whole thing of

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these people always turn on their owls

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they always turn on the people who they

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were formerly who were formerly good

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guys in the computer so they always

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become the bad guys

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so when we call me you're seeing a lot

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of the well they're they're letting him

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go on this because they really want to

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get into the season or they're you know

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they let him go to fake out the deep

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state that they're going to eventually

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get him or the FISA abuses and we came

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to the ball or whatever there's always a

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reason why the big event gets kicked

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down the road a little bit and this is a

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mark that you see over and over in this

339
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prosperity scales where it's all just

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about to happen but it didn't happen but

341
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there's a reason why it didn't happen

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it's all part of the war it's all gonna

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get explained you layer it it's just

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it's a way to just keep people on the

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hook because you can't really say well

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you know this this Justice Department

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this new Justice Department under Bill

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bar which we thought was going to be the

349
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stealth bomber and was gonna break

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everything open and it's gonna uh sir in

351
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the storm know it's all just none of

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that's gonna happen and all this release

353
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the memo and vice agate and D closets

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all garbage all that was a scam but they

355
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have to keep it going they can't say no

356
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we I guess we got lied to or I guess

357
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we've been lying to you ah they have to

358
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keep it going so then no matter what

359
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happens it's all part of the planning

360
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and I'm sure they're gonna turn on bar I

361
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think they probably will and as they

362
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sort of come to grips with the fact that

363
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there's never gonna be a big

364
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declassification commis gonna go

365
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we need these other FBI people the Trump

366
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and Q have obsessed over four years are

367
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gonna they're all gonna go free they

368
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didn't break any laws and so that has to

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be rationalized because otherwise you

370
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have to admit us did you chime yeah it's

371
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like the building this increasingly

372
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complicated like yeah it's like when a

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liar gets caught in a lie and then has

374
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to layer under the lie upon it

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you just get this kind of

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ever-increasing structure built out of

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lies I mean it's not really lies in

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there

379
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Baker's or whatever they call themselves

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they they're just building a belief

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structure this is increasing yeah more

382
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and more complicated and has more and

383
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more things to explain everything yeah

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it's like Occam's razor gone gone gone

385
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mad backwards it's like I said from

386
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there that's adding yeah God is testing

387
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us God will test us with boils and then

388
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we survive the boils and we were

389
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starting to question a God who would do

390
00:16:02,310 --> 00:16:00,490
that over that God's gonna test this

391
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with frogs and then we're gonna question

392
00:16:06,090 --> 00:16:04,570
whether why would God do that with frogs

393
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God's gonna test this with blood rain I

394
00:16:12,510 --> 00:16:09,280
mean it's just it just keeps going and

395
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going and going and at no point do the

396
00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:15,010
people who are pushing and ever feel

397
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like they've taken it far enough or that

398
00:16:21,540 --> 00:16:19,330
they can they can stop because they're

399
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all making money off yeah now you

400
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:25,000
mentioned prosperity scams yeah what do

401
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you mean by that is that general type of

402
00:16:30,630 --> 00:16:28,630
thing oh sure that's a I don't know

403
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that's a term that I came up with and I

404
00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:32,410
mean I've just decided somebody else did

405
00:16:39,540 --> 00:16:35,730
a prosperity scam is is anything where

406
00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:39,550
you put in a very small amount of money

407
00:16:45,330 --> 00:16:41,440
or time and you were rewarded with a

408
00:16:48,450 --> 00:16:45,340
giant bountiful amount of money or great

409
00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:48,460
happenings so the one that I there's a

410
00:16:53,070 --> 00:16:50,530
couple that I that I look at as sort of

411
00:16:56,010 --> 00:16:53,080
the precursors to queue and on one is

412
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the Iraqi dinar when this was one that

413
00:17:01,110 --> 00:16:58,630
was really popular maybe a couple years

414
00:17:04,410 --> 00:17:01,120
into the Iraq war where you started

415
00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:04,420
seeing military people you know Armed

416
00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:06,310
Forces people coming back with them with

417
00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:09,250
a bunch of Iraqi dinars and that's racks

418
00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:10,930
currency and it's worthless

419
00:17:16,949 --> 00:17:15,310
no real value Iraq printed billions and

420
00:17:19,290 --> 00:17:16,959
billions of them and we're still doing

421
00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:19,300
everything in dollars but there was this

422
00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:22,089
this thought that if Iraq's economy

423
00:17:27,210 --> 00:17:25,089
started to improve this currency would

424
00:17:30,810 --> 00:17:27,220
suddenly be put more money I mean it's

425
00:17:33,180 --> 00:17:30,820
not it's not a totally unsound principle

426
00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:33,190
but the problem is that Iraq wanted to

427
00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:35,890
get rid of their dinar and come up with

428
00:17:39,930 --> 00:17:38,110
a new dinar that would be that would be

429
00:17:41,850 --> 00:17:39,940
more valuable return the old ones and

430
00:17:44,450 --> 00:17:41,860
get them new homes countries have done

431
00:17:47,390 --> 00:17:44,460
that before Japan did that

432
00:17:49,130 --> 00:17:47,400
but you started seeing people who

433
00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:49,140
thought that the dinar would go back to

434
00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:51,090
the value it had before that first of

435
00:17:55,790 --> 00:17:53,370
all when it was worth something like

436
00:17:57,230 --> 00:17:55,800
three dollars for every one dinar well

437
00:17:59,090 --> 00:17:57,240
the problem is that's what Saddam

438
00:18:03,380 --> 00:17:59,100
Hussein decided it was because he had a

439
00:18:05,870 --> 00:18:03,390
bunch of wanted to hunt when the when

440
00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:05,880
Saddam got kicked out the dinar even

441
00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:08,460
before that the dinar plummeted and

442
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:10,200
belly was worthless so you had people

443
00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:13,410
who were buying millions of dinars who

444
00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:14,640
thought that they were going to be worth

445
00:18:20,090 --> 00:18:17,010
millions of dollars and and you had this

446
00:18:21,470 --> 00:18:20,100
notion of something called re value that

447
00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,480
would that would happen that would be

448
00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:24,000
signed by President Bush sure by the

449
00:18:28,010 --> 00:18:26,430
International Monetary Fund or by the UN

450
00:18:30,830 --> 00:18:28,020
and it would be this document that

451
00:18:33,020 --> 00:18:30,840
suddenly all these billions of dinars

452
00:18:35,120 --> 00:18:33,030
would be worth billions of dollars and

453
00:18:37,310 --> 00:18:35,130
if you own millions of nard you would

454
00:18:40,190 --> 00:18:37,320
suddenly instantly be known as a

455
00:18:44,990 --> 00:18:40,200
ridiculous it is the most ridiculous

456
00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:45,000
thing it is it is a total clip of how

457
00:18:50,690 --> 00:18:48,360
currency actually yes and not realizing

458
00:18:52,820 --> 00:18:50,700
that if you had if suddenly all these

459
00:18:54,110 --> 00:18:52,830
people became millionaires there would

460
00:18:58,460 --> 00:18:54,120
be massive inflation

461
00:19:01,040 --> 00:18:58,470
I mean dollar plummet in value like why

462
00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:01,050
would President Bush sign a document

463
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:03,390
that crashed the currency of his own

464
00:19:07,790 --> 00:19:05,730
country it just it just doesn't make it

465
00:19:12,140 --> 00:19:07,800
live it would be like giving away a

466
00:19:14,540 --> 00:19:12,150
trillion dollars really right yeah and

467
00:19:18,140 --> 00:19:14,550
they're still falling for you had this

468
00:19:22,070 --> 00:19:18,150
this ecosystem on these currency

469
00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:22,080
companies that could sell dinars in the

470
00:19:25,130 --> 00:19:23,610
United States but they couldn't be sold

471
00:19:27,020 --> 00:19:25,140
as an investment they were sold as

472
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collectible and then you had this

473
00:19:32,540 --> 00:19:30,000
parallel ecosystem of these dinar gurus

474
00:19:34,670 --> 00:19:32,550
who were pumping out this endless flow

475
00:19:37,250 --> 00:19:34,680
of information about you know Iraq

476
00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:37,260
signed document whatever that was gonna

477
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:40,880
release more oil and minerals and the

478
00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:45,090
Vice Minister of Trade and Lib just sign

479
00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:47,120
this release I mean it was just this

480
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:49,800
unbelievably complicated mythology all

481
00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:52,170
setting up this massive revalue and

482
00:19:55,730 --> 00:19:53,700
there were there was all of these

483
00:19:56,659 --> 00:19:55,740
documents or than books written about

484
00:19:59,479 --> 00:19:56,669
what you do

485
00:20:01,879 --> 00:19:59,489
when when your DeMars revalue you'll get

486
00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:01,889
us you'll get a special phone call and a

487
00:20:07,159 --> 00:20:05,100
secret 800 number and you'll know to go

488
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:07,169
to the secret bank but you gotta you

489
00:20:11,810 --> 00:20:09,330
have to go into the secret entrance and

490
00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:11,820
you bring your dinars with you and you

491
00:20:16,159 --> 00:20:13,470
have to give them to this person but not

492
00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:16,169
that purse I mean it's just people got

493
00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:17,700
so caught up when people were getting

494
00:20:24,229 --> 00:20:20,480
wiped out by it because you had these

495
00:20:25,940 --> 00:20:24,239
rumours who were coming back whose kids

496
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:25,950
were coming back from Iraq with couple

497
00:20:29,989 --> 00:20:27,840
hundred thousand dinars and let go I

498
00:20:32,060 --> 00:20:29,999
spent 20 bucks on it if they go up and

499
00:20:34,999 --> 00:20:32,070
tell you that's great not whatever and

500
00:20:37,070 --> 00:20:35,009
they will go all I want money I'll buy

501
00:20:38,570 --> 00:20:37,080
I'll buy millions of them and you've got

502
00:20:41,330 --> 00:20:38,580
these gurus telling you it's gonna

503
00:20:43,070 --> 00:20:41,340
happen it's gonna happen and of course

504
00:20:44,989 --> 00:20:43,080
it never did and it's never going to and

505
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:44,999
a lot of these currency companies have

506
00:20:52,340 --> 00:20:48,090
been have been closed by the FBI or the

507
00:20:55,009 --> 00:20:52,350
SEC so it's just this whole mess no it

508
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:55,019
does anything we may know it yeah yes it

509
00:21:02,419 --> 00:20:57,330
is it is actually still going there are

510
00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:02,429
still daily chats with dinar gurus there

511
00:21:06,649 --> 00:21:04,710
are still newsletters going out there

512
00:21:08,029 --> 00:21:06,659
still it's gotten tight into queueing on

513
00:21:09,169 --> 00:21:08,039
there a bunch of queue people were

514
00:21:12,769 --> 00:21:09,179
buying at dinars

515
00:21:16,700 --> 00:21:12,779
there's absolutely I read a story just

516
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:16,710
this week that there's this these bearer

517
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:21,570
bonds from government before or I guess

518
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:24,690
like the government in China before the

519
00:21:29,269 --> 00:21:27,330
Communist revolution and yeah you know

520
00:21:32,210 --> 00:21:29,279
the shanghai czech government and that

521
00:21:35,450 --> 00:21:32,220
that government has sold these bonds

522
00:21:36,889 --> 00:21:35,460
there yes I guess if you took the value

523
00:21:39,710 --> 00:21:36,899
of the now they're worth trillions of

524
00:21:41,919 --> 00:21:39,720
dollars but the Chinese government has

525
00:21:44,269 --> 00:21:41,929
said yeah we're never paying these off

526
00:21:46,609 --> 00:21:44,279
there's no obligation you're never going

527
00:21:48,049 --> 00:21:46,619
to see and some of these people have

528
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:48,059
been trying to lobby the Trump

529
00:21:53,269 --> 00:21:50,129
administration get China to recognize

530
00:21:54,049 --> 00:21:53,279
these bonds and these bought you know

531
00:21:56,539 --> 00:21:54,059
these are bonds that are bought a

532
00:21:59,180 --> 00:21:56,549
hundred years ago even Braille hangings

533
00:22:00,830 --> 00:21:59,190
and and well the Chinese gonna recognize

534
00:22:02,060 --> 00:22:00,840
his bonds and then we're gonna be able

535
00:22:03,379 --> 00:22:02,070
to turn them in and we're gonna be

536
00:22:05,659 --> 00:22:03,389
billionaires a minute and of course

537
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:05,669
there's that what are the lead people

538
00:22:10,610 --> 00:22:09,450
behind it is a megachurch pastor so you

539
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:10,620
have this this

540
00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:14,850
convergence of great godly wealth being

541
00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:17,280
delivered to the people who just held on

542
00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:19,080
long enough and believed the right

543
00:22:25,399 --> 00:22:22,140
things and a lot of these scams go back

544
00:22:28,399 --> 00:22:25,409
to that yeah under predated the iraq

545
00:22:30,409 --> 00:22:28,409
dinar called Massaro which was really

546
00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:30,419
popular in the late nineties in the

547
00:22:36,649 --> 00:22:34,440
early of the 2000s where you you could

548
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:36,659
spend just a couple of hundred dollars

549
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:40,650
to get prosperity packets that would

550
00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:42,960
eventually be released to the people and

551
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:45,809
make it make us all billionaires 9/11

552
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:47,940
was carried out by the dark forces to

553
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,690
stop the prospering packets really

554
00:22:56,930 --> 00:22:52,799
destroy the documents I mean it's just

555
00:22:58,700 --> 00:22:56,940
it's like it's like come on you know you

556
00:23:00,919 --> 00:22:58,710
can either get a job or start a business

557
00:23:04,279 --> 00:23:00,929
or invest in something and build your

558
00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:04,289
wealth but you can't have trillions of

559
00:23:08,060 --> 00:23:06,150
dollars ring down for the stock it's not

560
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:08,070
going down yeah when you when you

561
00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,840
started talking about this I thought

562
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:11,520
well that's this will be a good example

563
00:23:15,740 --> 00:23:13,440
to show to people to show something that

564
00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:15,750
didn't work I could share them this

565
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:17,820
dinner scam and it never panned out but

566
00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:19,650
like what you're saying is that it's

567
00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:21,960
still going he never really ended so you

568
00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:25,200
can't say that it didn't work yeah

569
00:23:29,029 --> 00:23:26,700
there's always a new person there's

570
00:23:31,010 --> 00:23:29,039
always a new thing well that didn't work

571
00:23:34,730 --> 00:23:31,020
the bad guys got to it but now we've got

572
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:34,740
this new thing and if you go back before

573
00:23:40,250 --> 00:23:37,440
that there's more minutes there's always

574
00:23:46,039 --> 00:23:40,260
somebody willing to create a mythology

575
00:23:48,950 --> 00:23:46,049
to juice yeah yeah I think Hugh is going

576
00:23:51,260 --> 00:23:48,960
to I know it's gonna do the same type of

577
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:51,270
thing I guess it's gonna remain in some

578
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:53,970
form for for a long time to come

579
00:24:00,730 --> 00:23:56,850
I think and I think that's worth is the

580
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:00,740
idea the queue posts as Scripture and

581
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:06,330
then some fee is going to take the more

582
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:08,610
horrible elements of it the sort of

583
00:24:13,370 --> 00:24:11,010
child sacrifice and all the numerology

584
00:24:16,730 --> 00:24:13,380
all week baffling stuff and get rid of

585
00:24:19,639 --> 00:24:16,740
that and just keep the core of a sort of

586
00:24:21,409 --> 00:24:19,649
an insider who's putting nuggets of

587
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:21,419
information out for people to connect

588
00:24:24,019 --> 00:24:23,250
that's gonna continue that's gonna get

589
00:24:26,629 --> 00:24:24,029
turned

590
00:24:28,879 --> 00:24:26,639
so now yeah why is such a lucrative

591
00:24:34,239 --> 00:24:28,889
business I like eluted business but it's

592
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:35,690
on y'all

593
00:24:42,739 --> 00:24:39,690
yeah near where I live there's a house

594
00:24:44,239 --> 00:24:42,749
on a fairly busy road and outside of the

595
00:24:47,589 --> 00:24:44,249
house for a few years they had a sign

596
00:24:51,139 --> 00:24:47,599
that said look up research chemtrails

597
00:24:55,609 --> 00:24:51,149
and about six months ago they changed it

598
00:24:57,379 --> 00:24:55,619
a big Q or stick with where we go when

599
00:25:00,440 --> 00:24:57,389
we go all written a fit

600
00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:00,450
it's it's like they I don't know it's

601
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:02,460
the kind of got bored with chemtrails

602
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:04,710
and the cure is the the new hotness and

603
00:25:10,729 --> 00:25:08,369
they yeah yeah is the hot new rookie

604
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:10,739
doesn't seem matter it'll be something

605
00:25:14,299 --> 00:25:12,450
else and I'm sure a lot of the cue

606
00:25:16,190 --> 00:25:14,309
mythology will get moved over to that

607
00:25:19,099 --> 00:25:16,200
it'll have some new stops it'll be some

608
00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:19,109
new people involved and you know it'll

609
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:20,940
it'll emerge out of something and then

610
00:25:25,820 --> 00:25:22,769
we'll just start all over

611
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:25,830
we'll say well it's switchgear slightly

612
00:25:32,180 --> 00:25:30,450
you mentioned bar earlier yeah hey I saw

613
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:32,190
an interesting that a little conspiracy

614
00:25:38,629 --> 00:25:35,849
tidbit earlier which was that bars

615
00:25:41,209 --> 00:25:38,639
father was a I think a teacher or

616
00:25:44,329 --> 00:25:41,219
something some guy to school who hired

617
00:25:48,829 --> 00:25:44,339
Jeffrey Epstein Epstein has Epstein or

618
00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:48,839
yeah yeah every Epstein - to teach math

619
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:52,769
to students that's a school so these

620
00:26:00,489 --> 00:25:54,809
these connections which I'm sure people

621
00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:00,499
make a lot of how does how does Epstein

622
00:26:06,409 --> 00:26:03,539
fit in to Q what are people saying in

623
00:26:08,239 --> 00:26:06,419
the Q world about Epstein yeah Epstein

624
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,249
was a big part of the Q mythology you

625
00:26:13,369 --> 00:26:11,039
got mentioned a lot yeah you saw a lot

626
00:26:17,239 --> 00:26:13,379
of mentions of the island the weird

627
00:26:21,979 --> 00:26:17,249
building the golden dome and Sprint

628
00:26:26,049 --> 00:26:21,989
supposedly secret tunnels and giant

629
00:26:29,149 --> 00:26:26,059
video taping system and a lot of it was

630
00:26:31,070 --> 00:26:29,159
just sort of generic stop and then some

631
00:26:34,039 --> 00:26:31,080
of it was this really hard for satanic

632
00:26:36,589 --> 00:26:34,049
stuff but it was interesting because she

633
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:36,599
really didn't say anything about apps

634
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,170
team that

635
00:26:42,740 --> 00:26:40,320
wasn't Arden in the media you know we

636
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:42,750
you know know nobody should have been

637
00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:44,130
surprised that Jeffrey Epstein was

638
00:26:51,770 --> 00:26:47,430
arrested man was a convicted saxophone

639
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:51,780
this is not this is not like you know

640
00:26:56,090 --> 00:26:54,600
Tom Hanks having a backyard pool Laden's

641
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:56,100
everybody being shocked

642
00:26:59,900 --> 00:26:58,290
this guy everybody knew what this guy

643
00:27:03,050 --> 00:26:59,910
was we didn't know the details but

644
00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:03,060
everybody knew those guys and that he

645
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:05,520
gotten a slap on the wrist for some

646
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:07,530
pretty terrible stuff and that he'd

647
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:09,690
gotten away with it because powerful

648
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:12,210
people are protected so the idea that

649
00:27:16,970 --> 00:27:15,090
you revealed the truth about Jeffrey

650
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:16,980
Epson know the truth was already there

651
00:27:25,310 --> 00:27:21,330
everything and you know when it's funny

652
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:25,320
with the Wynn committed suicide in Kazan

653
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:27,810
was a Saturday at 7:00 morning with the

654
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:29,970
news brokenly I tried it supposed to

655
00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:31,650
stay off social media on the weekends

656
00:27:35,690 --> 00:27:33,150
just try to spend it with my family in

657
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:35,700
doing anything else

658
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:38,880
and I woke up and my kids hurry up and I

659
00:27:41,690 --> 00:27:40,110
thought okay you know it's going to be a

660
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:41,700
nice calm weekend with the kids in the

661
00:27:45,950 --> 00:27:44,370
business yeah I'm gonna try stay off

662
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:45,960
Twitter and then I got a push

663
00:27:50,930 --> 00:27:48,690
notification on the phone I looked at it

664
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:50,940
like Jeffrey Epstein found dead and in

665
00:27:54,650 --> 00:27:53,970
sell and go really thanks for ruining my

666
00:27:59,450 --> 00:27:54,660
weekend

667
00:28:04,460 --> 00:27:59,460
sure is it immediately the conspiracy

668
00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:04,470
theories just you know you saw I mean

669
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:07,140
you know Michael Moore and Ann Coulter

670
00:28:12,350 --> 00:28:09,530
or both kind of saying the same thing

671
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:12,360
Claire McCaskill was like now this this

672
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:14,910
looks suspicious to me and the thing is

673
00:28:19,580 --> 00:28:17,130
is that people really won't wait to be

674
00:28:22,450 --> 00:28:19,590
suspicious about I mean it's it's the

675
00:28:25,940 --> 00:28:22,460
idea of a one of the most high level

676
00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:25,950
prisoners in the country who should be

677
00:28:32,290 --> 00:28:28,620
on suicide watch and in solitary you

678
00:28:34,460 --> 00:28:32,300
know with cameras and staff on 24/7

679
00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:34,470
finding some way to take his own life

680
00:28:39,020 --> 00:28:36,990
that is that is bizarre that should not

681
00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:39,030
happen there's gotta be a bigger story

682
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:41,550
giving so people are totally right to be

683
00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:44,310
to look at and think that's fishy that's

684
00:28:49,670 --> 00:28:48,030
weird nice coincidence you know that

685
00:28:50,289 --> 00:28:49,680
there's nothing there's nothing out of

686
00:28:51,669 --> 00:28:50,299
the ordinary

687
00:28:53,739 --> 00:28:51,679
that now person people would mean

688
00:28:57,940 --> 00:28:53,749
certainly Clinton's and other people

689
00:28:59,379 --> 00:28:57,950
started immediately trial and Hugh

690
00:29:02,739 --> 00:28:59,389
wasn't saying anything about it because

691
00:29:05,859 --> 00:29:02,749
by that point I think a chin was still

692
00:29:07,539 --> 00:29:05,869
around yeah because somebody put leak

693
00:29:09,249 --> 00:29:07,549
some information about it oh I guess

694
00:29:11,769 --> 00:29:09,259
that was unfortunate somebody leaked

695
00:29:13,029 --> 00:29:11,779
some information about photos I think uh

696
00:29:17,469 --> 00:29:13,039
yeah the photos got leaked and then

697
00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:17,479
somebody was like I'm an EMT and we had

698
00:29:22,329 --> 00:29:18,830
correctional center and that was about a

699
00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:22,339
half hour but then there's so much

700
00:29:28,239 --> 00:29:24,169
garbage unfortunately you can never tell

701
00:29:30,099 --> 00:29:28,249
us on this can't no you can't you can't

702
00:29:33,969 --> 00:29:30,109
look at fortune as some certain place or

703
00:29:34,749 --> 00:29:33,979
cold the best week for oh my gosh yeah

704
00:29:38,339 --> 00:29:34,759
exactly

705
00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:38,349
far from so then people were immediately

706
00:29:45,159 --> 00:29:43,190
blaming it on the Clintons and trompin

707
00:29:47,469 --> 00:29:45,169
saying that you know somebody got to him

708
00:29:49,329 --> 00:29:47,479
when we paid somebody offer but then you

709
00:29:51,789 --> 00:29:49,339
had the other side of how did you know

710
00:29:53,289 --> 00:29:51,799
Donald Trump's Justice Department let

711
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:53,299
this happen you know if they had this

712
00:29:55,719 --> 00:29:54,769
key witness against the Clintons they

713
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,729
would have done everything to protect

714
00:29:59,919 --> 00:29:57,440
him and that didn't make a lot of sense

715
00:30:01,149 --> 00:29:59,929
the cue people like how does if Jeffrey

716
00:30:02,109 --> 00:30:01,159
Epstein is gonna be the guy who brings

717
00:30:03,729 --> 00:30:02,119
it all down

718
00:30:05,379 --> 00:30:03,739
and Donald Trump's gonna be the guy who

719
00:30:07,089 --> 00:30:05,389
brings it all down how did Donald Trump

720
00:30:07,509 --> 00:30:07,099
let Jeffery up see that doesn't make any

721
00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:07,519
sense

722
00:30:12,969 --> 00:30:10,089
that makes Trump less than perfect and

723
00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:12,979
Trump can't be less than perfect so then

724
00:30:16,449 --> 00:30:14,779
you started having the body double

725
00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,459
conspiracy yeah

726
00:30:21,310 --> 00:30:18,799
may the ears on the corpse don't look

727
00:30:23,289 --> 00:30:21,320
like Epstein's ears and he's got this

728
00:30:25,659 --> 00:30:23,299
mark here that's not there and and

729
00:30:27,909 --> 00:30:25,669
people think you people started coming

730
00:30:31,389 --> 00:30:27,919
up with this totally bonkers alternative

731
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:31,399
mythology that the Epstein who was in

732
00:30:36,339 --> 00:30:33,769
the leaked photo was fake or a body

733
00:30:39,879 --> 00:30:36,349
double or a clone and that the real FC

734
00:30:43,629 --> 00:30:39,889
was put in hiding to make sure that he

735
00:30:46,329 --> 00:30:43,639
can testify against Clinton and it

736
00:30:47,709 --> 00:30:46,339
starts to you know you have to invent

737
00:30:50,619 --> 00:30:47,719
this because otherwise

738
00:30:53,109 --> 00:30:50,629
Donald Trump and his you know stealth

739
00:30:55,899 --> 00:30:53,119
bomber of an attorney general look like

740
00:30:57,219 --> 00:30:55,909
in confident it and we can't you can't

741
00:30:59,109 --> 00:30:57,229
have that can't have the cult leader

742
00:31:00,279 --> 00:30:59,119
look bad so you've got to make up

743
00:31:03,459 --> 00:31:00,289
something that makes the cult leader

744
00:31:04,130 --> 00:31:03,469
look like a genius yeah so that they're

745
00:31:07,820 --> 00:31:04,140
essentially saying

746
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:07,830
Trump was uh it was protecting Epstein

747
00:31:11,150 --> 00:31:09,330
from the Clintons because he knew that

748
00:31:13,789 --> 00:31:11,160
the Clintons would try to kill him yeah

749
00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:13,799
so he had him pretend killed all right

750
00:31:18,890 --> 00:31:16,950
pretend suicided Ryan then spirited him

751
00:31:23,350 --> 00:31:18,900
away probably to a different private

752
00:31:25,940 --> 00:31:23,360
island where he can wait and president I

753
00:31:26,390 --> 00:31:25,950
yeah once you've got that of course like

754
00:31:27,860 --> 00:31:26,400
yes

755
00:31:29,419 --> 00:31:27,870
once you've already done that you know

756
00:31:29,930 --> 00:31:29,429
once you get JFK jr. and how you for

757
00:31:31,730 --> 00:31:29,940
twenty years

758
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:31,740
what's smuggling I dude out of prison

759
00:31:37,460 --> 00:31:34,650
you had some some some post on that

760
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:37,470
4chan post about the you know that did

761
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:39,650
actually appear to leak some information

762
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:42,450
added on to that that they neighborhood

763
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:45,690
they saw ban and a guy gets smuggled out

764
00:31:50,539 --> 00:31:49,049
and that got grafted onto the original

765
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:50,549
post and people who thought they were

766
00:31:55,940 --> 00:31:54,090
from the same person and think Oh one

767
00:31:59,180 --> 00:31:55,950
person unfortunate on the truth but one

768
00:32:02,690 --> 00:31:59,190
person lying I mean it's it's just it's

769
00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:02,700
it's so hard to untangle if you're not

770
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:06,150
versed in that world and so everybody

771
00:32:10,340 --> 00:32:08,100
started just going with the conspiracy

772
00:32:12,890 --> 00:32:10,350
theory because it it made in a way it

773
00:32:15,380 --> 00:32:12,900
made more sense and then just thank know

774
00:32:16,730 --> 00:32:15,390
the prison was understaffed and somebody

775
00:32:19,970 --> 00:32:16,740
screwed up and they took them off

776
00:32:22,669 --> 00:32:19,980
suicide watch accidentally or they or or

777
00:32:24,380 --> 00:32:22,679
whatever and he found some way to take

778
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:24,390
his own life that's what I

779
00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:26,910
I always did you're right ready students

780
00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:28,260
like there I heard it I thought here's a

781
00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:31,020
guy who is very wealthy very powerful

782
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:32,820
who has lost all this power all the

783
00:32:36,620 --> 00:32:33,510
status

784
00:32:38,330 --> 00:32:36,630
she's a pedophile meanie he's the lowest

785
00:32:41,299 --> 00:32:38,340
rung on the ladder in prison and

786
00:32:42,890 --> 00:32:41,309
everyone's gone he knows he's gonna be

787
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:42,900
convicted he knows this is the rest of

788
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:47,610
his life and he saw a way to end it and

789
00:32:53,419 --> 00:32:50,880
probably also to deny his victims

790
00:32:55,820 --> 00:32:53,429
justice and so he gets a final screw you

791
00:32:59,720 --> 00:32:55,830
to his victims and he gets to forestall

792
00:33:02,090 --> 00:32:59,730
decades of misery and taken a life I

793
00:33:03,650 --> 00:33:02,100
mean that to me makes perfect sense and

794
00:33:05,330 --> 00:33:03,660
doesn't require a conspiracy now there

795
00:33:06,620 --> 00:33:05,340
was a lot of people who screwed up you

796
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:06,630
shouldn't have been taken off suicide

797
00:33:11,780 --> 00:33:10,110
watch the cameras around the cell should

798
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:11,790
have been walk in and it appears that

799
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:14,640
they want but that doesn't you know this

800
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:16,050
is an old prison that doesn't have a lot

801
00:33:20,889 --> 00:33:17,210
of money in store

802
00:33:22,990 --> 00:33:20,899
we overstretched so you know blame blame

803
00:33:25,620 --> 00:33:23,000
the failings of Justice Department blame

804
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:25,630
the failings of the prison but

805
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:28,490
ultimately you we don't have to make off

806
00:33:34,419 --> 00:33:32,809
the story it sounds fishy sounds too

807
00:33:36,519 --> 00:33:34,429
weird to have actually have a lot of

808
00:33:37,810 --> 00:33:36,529
times things that are too weird to have

809
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:37,820
actually happened are the thing that

810
00:33:43,899 --> 00:33:42,890
yeah yeah like like on 9/11 oh that's

811
00:33:45,370 --> 00:33:43,909
what people gave the conspiracy

812
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:45,380
theorists II look so incredible and

813
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:46,880
amazing I have to think of an incredible

814
00:33:52,889 --> 00:33:49,850
an amazing explanation you know with

815
00:33:55,269 --> 00:33:52,899
Epstein's death like you know there is

816
00:33:57,159 --> 00:33:55,279
especially the simplest conspiracy would

817
00:33:59,529 --> 00:33:57,169
just be simply that they took him off

818
00:34:01,360 --> 00:33:59,539
suicide watch like someone asked him to

819
00:34:04,029 --> 00:34:01,370
be taken off sidewalks but I think they

820
00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:04,039
have like got very specific guidelines

821
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:05,809
for doing that like if they haven't

822
00:34:10,570 --> 00:34:08,510
exhibited suicidal behavior for some

823
00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:10,580
fairly short period of time I think it's

824
00:34:16,359 --> 00:34:13,750
like like a week or something like that

825
00:34:17,829 --> 00:34:16,369
yeah they have to take him off so and I

826
00:34:20,099 --> 00:34:17,839
guess they get that probably will do

827
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:20,109
some report on that at some point but

828
00:34:24,970 --> 00:34:22,550
hey you can see why it looks suspicious

829
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:24,980
to people cuz you say yeah he tried to

830
00:34:28,510 --> 00:34:27,200
kill himself on suicide watch they took

831
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:28,520
him on suicide watch and he killed

832
00:34:31,329 --> 00:34:29,810
himself and there was no cameras and

833
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:31,339
everything so yeah obviously there's all

834
00:34:36,579 --> 00:34:33,530
the ingredients there for a conspiracy

835
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:36,589
theory but also all the reasons there

836
00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:40,010
why he would kill himself so it's kind

837
00:34:43,629 --> 00:34:41,750
of this conspiracy light in a way taking

838
00:34:44,169 --> 00:34:43,639
him off and hoping that he'll kill

839
00:34:45,970 --> 00:34:44,179
himself

840
00:34:48,190 --> 00:34:45,980
thank you it was such a big deal they

841
00:34:50,950 --> 00:34:48,200
would put more effort into it right and

842
00:34:56,649 --> 00:34:50,960
I would imagine that he I mean he had

843
00:34:58,450 --> 00:34:56,659
tried to take a suicide watch and I

844
00:35:00,730 --> 00:34:58,460
would imagine he still wanted to do it

845
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:00,740
so he knew he just had to wave out and

846
00:35:05,140 --> 00:35:03,050
then you know figure out a better way to

847
00:35:06,670 --> 00:35:05,150
do it and that's if you want to take

848
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:06,680
your own life you're probably gonna find

849
00:35:13,089 --> 00:35:10,310
a way to do it yeah but that's a thing

850
00:35:15,070 --> 00:35:13,099
with it business it was a thing with the

851
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:15,080
the hyoid bone and the little bone that

852
00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:16,490
you have it's like oh yeah wishbone

853
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:20,420
yes good jaw and people saying that she

854
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:22,910
knows indicative of a strangulation but

855
00:35:26,790 --> 00:35:25,280
when you look at the scientific

856
00:35:28,990 --> 00:35:26,800
literature there is also indicative of

857
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:29,000
people hanging themselves right

858
00:35:31,210 --> 00:35:30,950
especially with old people because it

859
00:35:33,370 --> 00:35:31,220
become

860
00:35:35,260 --> 00:35:33,380
brittle with age someone hangs

861
00:35:37,870 --> 00:35:35,270
themselves it's right right here

862
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:37,880
underneath you can easily imagine

863
00:35:43,270 --> 00:35:41,690
there's no yeah yeah but you know people

864
00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:43,280
are just gonna focus on that one thing

865
00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:44,990
now another thing that comes up a lot

866
00:35:53,710 --> 00:35:49,849
with with Epstein is the Lolita Express

867
00:35:55,390 --> 00:35:53,720
is pain and the idea that he used it to

868
00:36:00,849 --> 00:35:55,400
ferry well obviously did use it to ferry

869
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:00,859
young women girls to his Island but that

870
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:01,970
also there's a connection there with

871
00:36:06,700 --> 00:36:05,450
Clinton that people are saying that you

872
00:36:11,410 --> 00:36:06,710
know Clinton was on the lot later

873
00:36:13,150 --> 00:36:11,420
expressed 26 times right and it turns

874
00:36:15,010 --> 00:36:13,160
out he was only it was it was six

875
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:15,020
different trips with multiple hops and

876
00:36:19,990 --> 00:36:16,570
mostly em were I think they were like

877
00:36:22,450 --> 00:36:20,000
kind of like goodwill trips to Africa

878
00:36:28,290 --> 00:36:22,460
and yeah yeah and ocean things for its

879
00:36:30,190 --> 00:36:28,300
foundation yeah yes but you know Clinton

880
00:36:34,690 --> 00:36:30,200
obviously as a lot of conspiracy

881
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:34,700
theories swirling around here man is the

882
00:36:40,570 --> 00:36:36,650
big one being the the Clinton body count

883
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:40,580
yes what's your take on the Clinton body

884
00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:42,650
count oh that's one of my favorites

885
00:36:46,750 --> 00:36:44,990
that's like I like talking about that

886
00:36:49,810 --> 00:36:46,760
because it's it's a really interesting

887
00:36:53,260 --> 00:36:49,820
example of how the conspiracy theory

888
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:53,270
movement dips developed in the 90s and

889
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:55,970
how is that that beginning of what we

890
00:36:59,140 --> 00:36:57,170
know as a matter conspiracy theory

891
00:37:01,870 --> 00:36:59,150
movement has mutated into what we know

892
00:37:05,020 --> 00:37:01,880
now so Clinton body count is the list

893
00:37:07,270 --> 00:37:05,030
the ever-expanding list people somehow

894
00:37:10,690 --> 00:37:07,280
connected to bill and or Hillary Clinton

895
00:37:14,730 --> 00:37:10,700
who now died mysteriously I'm doing air

896
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:14,740
quotes here after having some encounter

897
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:18,410
works for them met them somehow knew

898
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:20,330
them from business knew them from their

899
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:24,170
time in Arkansas um any any connection

900
00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:26,690
no connection is too tenuous to be added

901
00:37:31,390 --> 00:37:29,720
to this list started in the early

902
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:31,400
nineties was put together by a woman

903
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:34,089
named Linda Thompson and this was a

904
00:37:38,859 --> 00:37:36,170
basically a professional anti-clinton

905
00:37:41,530 --> 00:37:38,869
conspiracy for she she was sort of the

906
00:37:45,070 --> 00:37:41,540
proto Alex Jones she made and salt

907
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:45,080
produced videos about about

908
00:37:53,950 --> 00:37:48,560
wait go and about the clintons using the

909
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:53,960
waco fire to kill ATF agents who are

910
00:37:59,110 --> 00:37:56,720
about to testify in their own yeah and

911
00:38:00,700 --> 00:37:59,120
so she she actually became really

912
00:38:03,730 --> 00:38:00,710
popular in this circle she sold her

913
00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:03,740
tapes in guns gun shows and conspiracy

914
00:38:10,570 --> 00:38:07,520
convention very nascent internet so she

915
00:38:13,690 --> 00:38:10,580
put together this list of people who

916
00:38:15,220 --> 00:38:13,700
died mysteriously in the orbit of the

917
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:15,230
Clintons and she wasn't saying that they

918
00:38:18,340 --> 00:38:16,490
killed them but that somebody should

919
00:38:20,620 --> 00:38:18,350
investigate this it's always what it was

920
00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:20,630
it's not I'm not saying that they killed

921
00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:22,550
them just saying we should ask more

922
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:25,190
questions so this list started going

923
00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:28,250
around and it got to a it was by that

924
00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:31,250
time a former House member from

925
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:34,250
California named William dynamo William

926
00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:38,890
dannemeyer was the prototypical

927
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:43,240
far-right 80s congressman super anti

928
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:47,930
LGBTQ rights super anti immigration that

929
00:38:53,410 --> 00:38:50,570
kind of stereotypical California

930
00:38:55,090 --> 00:38:53,420
Republican that doesn't really exist

931
00:38:57,250 --> 00:38:55,100
much anymore you there's that there's a

932
00:39:00,160 --> 00:38:57,260
couple of them still but you you had a

933
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:00,170
very very hard right faction in

934
00:39:04,930 --> 00:39:01,760
California and it basically got wiped

935
00:39:06,940 --> 00:39:04,940
out in the 90s after California passed

936
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:06,950
this Proposition 187 that was going to

937
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:10,670
try to strip basic rights away from from

938
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:13,040
Mike from immigrants and that got

939
00:39:17,590 --> 00:39:15,830
totally wrong time that you know you the

940
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,600
last sort of big California Republican

941
00:39:21,670 --> 00:39:19,760
reserve with Schwartz and people like

942
00:39:24,010 --> 00:39:21,680
him because it was on those words so

943
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:24,020
dannemeyer wrote a letter to Congress

944
00:39:28,660 --> 00:39:26,210
and got it entered into the

945
00:39:30,070 --> 00:39:28,670
Congressional Record asking that this

946
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:30,080
list be investigated

947
00:39:34,690 --> 00:39:32,930
nobody ever investigated but you had the

948
00:39:36,010 --> 00:39:34,700
popularity of the list in the conspiracy

949
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:36,020
theory community and the sort of

950
00:39:40,930 --> 00:39:38,930
official stamp of it in Congress and it

951
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:40,940
took off and it started getting passed

952
00:39:48,790 --> 00:39:46,010
around the email you snatch via you know

953
00:39:51,790 --> 00:39:48,800
flyers and it's just exploding the

954
00:39:56,309 --> 00:39:51,800
hundreds of names in the last 25 or 30

955
00:39:58,749 --> 00:39:56,319
years yeah it's uh

956
00:40:02,259 --> 00:39:58,759
it's also become like an accepted thing

957
00:40:05,579 --> 00:40:02,269
in yeah for a lot of people I I saw I

958
00:40:09,219 --> 00:40:05,589
think it was on vice news Frank Luntz

959
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:09,229
was doing a you know focused test and he

960
00:40:13,569 --> 00:40:11,529
had some Republicans and he had some

961
00:40:15,009 --> 00:40:13,579
Democrats and he was asking them why

962
00:40:16,569 --> 00:40:15,019
don't you trust Hillary Clinton or

963
00:40:18,539 --> 00:40:16,579
something like that and one woman said

964
00:40:21,189 --> 00:40:18,549
well she's killed hundreds of people

965
00:40:22,539 --> 00:40:21,199
yeah and no one batted an eyelid and

966
00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:22,549
they just kind of moved on and talked

967
00:40:27,009 --> 00:40:23,389
about other things

968
00:40:30,429 --> 00:40:27,019
oh yeah Hillary oliver's yeah it's the

969
00:40:33,489 --> 00:40:30,439
right-wing media really ran you had rush

970
00:40:35,199 --> 00:40:33,499
limbaugh going on a while you know rinse

971
00:40:38,819 --> 00:40:35,209
foster or for the cleansing shot himself

972
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:38,829
three times in the have that's my symbol

973
00:40:43,989 --> 00:40:42,319
and then just the election you you had

974
00:40:45,669 --> 00:40:43,999
Donald Trump talking about Vince Foster

975
00:40:48,459 --> 00:40:45,679
you had people talking about the

976
00:40:49,989 --> 00:40:48,469
Commerce Secretary Ron Brown died in a

977
00:40:54,129 --> 00:40:49,999
plane crash his plane flew in your mouth

978
00:40:56,709 --> 00:40:54,139
and it it became you know these two drug

979
00:40:59,289 --> 00:40:56,719
dealers in Arkansas we saw this murder

980
00:41:01,179 --> 00:40:59,299
they got killed by a train and then

981
00:41:03,339 --> 00:41:01,189
everybody they knew got killed and it's

982
00:41:04,509 --> 00:41:03,349
it's like it just the list just gets

983
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:04,519
bigger and bigger and bigger

984
00:41:10,059 --> 00:41:06,529
to the point where names are still being

985
00:41:15,579 --> 00:41:10,069
put on it any Kure Clinton's father's

986
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:15,589
dentist died Clinton murderer must have

987
00:41:19,899 --> 00:41:17,359
done something you must have known

988
00:41:22,659 --> 00:41:19,909
something some mayor of a small town

989
00:41:25,389 --> 00:41:22,669
somewhere fell out of a boat and drowned

990
00:41:28,629 --> 00:41:25,399
and it came out that he had a crawfish

991
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:28,639
dinner with Bill Clinton in 1996 got rid

992
00:41:35,109 --> 00:41:32,689
of him and it's just like it's at the

993
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:35,119
list just gets bigger and bigger because

994
00:41:39,789 --> 00:41:37,249
I've known a lot of people they weren't

995
00:41:42,579 --> 00:41:39,799
in just working in politics they worked

996
00:41:44,919 --> 00:41:42,589
in philanthropy she was first lady of

997
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:44,929
Arkansas and the US and she's a senator

998
00:41:49,509 --> 00:41:47,209
and Secretary of State and yeah there

999
00:41:51,069 --> 00:41:49,519
she was a lawyer and he's what

1000
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:51,079
foundation I mean it's just like the

1001
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:53,649
cleanse so a lot of people and

1002
00:41:56,939 --> 00:41:55,729
statistically speaking some of those

1003
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:56,949
people are going to die and

1004
00:42:00,969 --> 00:41:58,729
statistically speaking some of the

1005
00:42:02,919 --> 00:42:00,979
people that die are not going to die

1006
00:42:05,919 --> 00:42:02,929
naturally they're gonna die in suicides

1007
00:42:08,339 --> 00:42:05,929
are gonna die in accidents crimes I mean

1008
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:08,349
it's just that's you know enough people

1009
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:09,910
something bad

1010
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:12,089
is going to happen to a couple of yeah

1011
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:13,450
in it

1012
00:42:18,089 --> 00:42:16,089
the problem with with the the body-count

1013
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,099
thing if you want to try to debunk it is

1014
00:42:23,279 --> 00:42:20,400
that all we have is this one list of

1015
00:42:25,589 --> 00:42:23,289
clinton people who died and what you

1016
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:25,599
really need to show people that is

1017
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:28,450
nonsense is to have lists of the same

1018
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:30,609
list but for someone else like a no

1019
00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:32,530
battle body count or a trouble around

1020
00:42:35,970 --> 00:42:33,160
sura

1021
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:35,980
there HW of us body count yeah there are

1022
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:37,450
lists like that there's there they're

1023
00:42:41,370 --> 00:42:39,130
not as popular at the clinton body but

1024
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:41,380
there was a thing going around for a

1025
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:44,650
while that 9/11 witnesses were being

1026
00:42:49,789 --> 00:42:46,750
silenced and you had this whole long

1027
00:42:53,670 --> 00:42:49,799
list of people who were you know

1028
00:42:55,770 --> 00:42:53,680
witnesses to one of the crashes or were

1029
00:42:58,020 --> 00:42:55,780
you know knew somebody who knew somebody

1030
00:42:59,460 --> 00:42:58,030
who died and they're all being a limited

1031
00:43:04,819 --> 00:42:59,470
and i remember the one that stood out to

1032
00:43:08,670 --> 00:43:04,829
me was george w bush's brother's kids

1033
00:43:11,549 --> 00:43:08,680
babysitter who was killed in a car

1034
00:43:15,539 --> 00:43:11,559
accident and she was added to the list

1035
00:43:18,809 --> 00:43:15,549
of 911 witnesses who mysteriously died

1036
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:18,819
and this is just late really you think

1037
00:43:24,059 --> 00:43:21,010
the babysitter was it was part of the

1038
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:24,069
plot yeah that's how far you're willing

1039
00:43:30,150 --> 00:43:28,089
to take this and yet obama has this huge

1040
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:30,160
list of people who mysteriously died

1041
00:43:35,849 --> 00:43:34,210
near the the hawaii health officer who

1042
00:43:37,470 --> 00:43:35,859
authorized the release of the boat reach

1043
00:43:40,769 --> 00:43:37,480
advocate and she no talk to me about

1044
00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:40,779
that one oh yeah she gave the plane

1045
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,520
crash as well and it plane crash ditched

1046
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,079
in the ocean and she drowned yeah and go

1047
00:43:48,620 --> 00:43:46,240
had a hot shark yeah something like that

1048
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:48,630
something to do with the plane crash

1049
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:51,849
interesting one i saw a video of the

1050
00:43:55,890 --> 00:43:53,710
other a guy was videoing it after they

1051
00:43:58,769 --> 00:43:55,900
crashed and people analyzing the video

1052
00:44:01,079 --> 00:43:58,779
and they said they could see a scuba guy

1053
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:01,089
in scuba gear swim up to them and inject

1054
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:03,250
her with something and swim off a game

1055
00:44:09,539 --> 00:44:05,650
right which it was just some waves and

1056
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:09,549
yeah this it was ridiculous this is like

1057
00:44:17,549 --> 00:44:15,010
your plan is so super secret and so evil

1058
00:44:20,130 --> 00:44:17,559
and it's gonna change the world and you

1059
00:44:21,839 --> 00:44:20,140
conspire to kill 3,000 people 9/11 you

1060
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:21,849
conspired to put up a fake President

1061
00:44:25,650 --> 00:44:23,170
Barack Obama

1062
00:44:28,109 --> 00:44:25,660
fake birth certificate but at the same

1063
00:44:29,940 --> 00:44:28,119
time we uncovered it instantly with just

1064
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:29,950
five minutes of internet research so in

1065
00:44:36,329 --> 00:44:33,280
him full of it relies on this these evil

1066
00:44:38,609 --> 00:44:36,339
people being incredibly wedded to these

1067
00:44:42,089 --> 00:44:38,619
complicated things but also incredibly

1068
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:42,099
stupid to have not made the scheme who

1069
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:44,170
will prove to ten minutes of Internet

1070
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:46,750
research yeah that reminds me of you

1071
00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:49,450
9/11 obviously we have people who think

1072
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:51,700
it's obvious that it was a controlled

1073
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:54,460
demolition to them personally right and

1074
00:44:58,170 --> 00:44:56,650
yet we have millions and millions of

1075
00:45:00,210 --> 00:44:58,180
engineers and scientists around the

1076
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:00,220
world who just simply haven't noticed

1077
00:45:07,349 --> 00:45:03,010
this yet because they haven't put in the

1078
00:45:09,210 --> 00:45:07,359
effort done the research yeah and and we

1079
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,220
we have no idea where the explosives

1080
00:45:13,859 --> 00:45:11,200
came from who bought them who wired them

1081
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:13,869
who gave the order you know all of that

1082
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:16,210
stuff you know really the Twin Towers

1083
00:45:24,329 --> 00:45:19,450
just sat there full of explosives yeah

1084
00:45:26,789 --> 00:45:24,339
here's how that sells people say it was

1085
00:45:28,770 --> 00:45:26,799
common practice to wire buildings with

1086
00:45:31,410 --> 00:45:28,780
explosives in case they need demolished

1087
00:45:37,710 --> 00:45:31,420
in a hurry which is the most ridiculous

1088
00:45:42,829 --> 00:45:37,720
thing ever full of buildings full of

1089
00:45:47,250 --> 00:45:42,839
explosives apparently sir okay okay so

1090
00:45:48,150 --> 00:45:47,260
getting back to Epstein yeah so there

1091
00:45:50,190 --> 00:45:48,160
was this thing you're back with

1092
00:45:53,220 --> 00:45:50,200
Epstein's original charge with Alec Alex

1093
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:53,230
Acosta who was the obviously the the US

1094
00:45:59,970 --> 00:45:55,089
Attorney thank you listen very in my ear

1095
00:46:01,950 --> 00:45:59,980
yeah and he helped helped but he was

1096
00:46:05,089 --> 00:46:01,960
involved in getting this plea deal with

1097
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:05,099
Epstein where he just served 18 months

1098
00:46:10,380 --> 00:46:09,250
he was able to leave to go run into

1099
00:46:13,380 --> 00:46:10,390
business where he was getting more girls

1100
00:46:14,609 --> 00:46:13,390
yeah yeah so he basically just had a

1101
00:46:16,620 --> 00:46:14,619
place where he had to sleep at night or

1102
00:46:23,099 --> 00:46:16,630
something like that for yeah crashing

1103
00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:23,109
yeah yeah and he accosted her became the

1104
00:46:27,990 --> 00:46:26,680
Secretary of Labor and people obviously

1105
00:46:30,180 --> 00:46:28,000
think there's some kind of you know

1106
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:30,190
connection there is he's so connected

1107
00:46:34,799 --> 00:46:32,079
but then you know stuff came out about

1108
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,809
Epstein and then he he resigned because

1109
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:36,640
of it

1110
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:38,930
what do you think is that something

1111
00:46:44,620 --> 00:46:42,650
that's people have theories about Acosta

1112
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:44,630
that you've heard you know I haven't

1113
00:46:50,020 --> 00:46:47,770
heard so much about him

1114
00:46:51,970 --> 00:46:50,030
you know because part of it is that you

1115
00:46:55,530 --> 00:46:51,980
sort of then have to pull Trump into it

1116
00:46:59,980 --> 00:46:55,540
it's like well Trump gave a pasta

1117
00:47:02,380 --> 00:46:59,990
cabinet position as a reward for you

1118
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:02,390
know letting this pedophile off with a

1119
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:04,970
slap on the wrist I mean I think it's

1120
00:47:09,610 --> 00:47:07,490
funny how that that element of it I mean

1121
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:09,620
people were really outraged over a Kosta

1122
00:47:16,780 --> 00:47:12,050
and it's like how this guy just kept

1123
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:16,790
failing upward what it is no one bet

1124
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:19,610
this guy and figure out that he you know

1125
00:47:23,710 --> 00:47:21,410
basically let this guy walk free but it

1126
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:23,720
the problem with Acosta for the big for

1127
00:47:28,930 --> 00:47:25,490
the Trump people on for the few people

1128
00:47:30,580 --> 00:47:28,940
is that it makes Toronto back and you

1129
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:30,590
know you can't you can't have anything

1130
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:32,090
in the example of that so it all has to

1131
00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:34,610
get kind of you know pulled back in well

1132
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:37,250
he wanted him where Trump one of the

1133
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:39,170
Koster would he keep an eye on I mean it

1134
00:47:47,170 --> 00:47:43,970
just it necessitates so much special

1135
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:47,180
cleaning to work that it's almost

1136
00:47:53,110 --> 00:47:50,030
impossible to actually debunk because it

1137
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:53,120
just it's so bizarre and it doesn't do

1138
00:47:57,550 --> 00:47:54,410
it just doesn't make any sense

1139
00:47:58,090 --> 00:47:57,560
it's one of those what about this thing

1140
00:48:02,380 --> 00:47:58,100
like that

1141
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:02,390
Acosta supposedly said that Epstein

1142
00:48:08,590 --> 00:48:06,800
belongs to intelligence oh I heard yeah

1143
00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:08,600
that he was you started seeing some of

1144
00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:09,950
that true that he was like an FBI

1145
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:16,280
informant I mean if if the FBI what apps

1146
00:48:20,770 --> 00:48:18,770
team go because he was an informant I

1147
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:20,780
mean that's a major failing by the FBI

1148
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:22,010
and of course then they started trying

1149
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:23,570
to talk since I'm all her into that I

1150
00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:27,440
was ballers FBI but your mother wouldn't

1151
00:48:31,540 --> 00:48:29,510
have had anything nothing that would

1152
00:48:33,850 --> 00:48:31,550
have been and and tried quite frankly

1153
00:48:36,070 --> 00:48:33,860
know who know about molar he probably if

1154
00:48:39,220 --> 00:48:36,080
he had gone to him probably shut down I

1155
00:48:41,260 --> 00:48:39,230
mean you know you know you can you can

1156
00:48:42,420 --> 00:48:41,270
do what you things you need to do with

1157
00:48:44,310 --> 00:48:42,430
an informant them you can't like

1158
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:44,320
pedophile

1159
00:48:49,250 --> 00:48:46,480
yeah I think that they're saying that

1160
00:48:51,650 --> 00:48:49,260
Epstein was gathering calm

1161
00:48:53,350 --> 00:48:51,660
promise' non-people and then the

1162
00:48:54,940 --> 00:48:53,360
intelligence community was using that

1163
00:48:57,620 --> 00:48:54,950
yeah

1164
00:48:59,960 --> 00:48:57,630
blackmail them to get intelligence I

1165
00:49:02,810 --> 00:48:59,970
mean it's just all of it is just trying

1166
00:49:05,620 --> 00:49:02,820
to justify why why Epstein walked and of

1167
00:49:07,010 --> 00:49:05,630
course also trying to go after mauler

1168
00:49:09,590 --> 00:49:07,020
because mauler

1169
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:09,600
Mulder kind of went from a good guy to a

1170
00:49:14,090 --> 00:49:11,520
bad guy

1171
00:49:16,550 --> 00:49:14,100
there's a interesting thing with a

1172
00:49:17,390 --> 00:49:16,560
Kostas replacement I don't I find it

1173
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:17,400
interesting

1174
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:20,760
Acosta's replacement was called Patrick

1175
00:49:25,940 --> 00:49:24,180
pizzelle ax and pizzelle ax if you just

1176
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:25,950
take out three letters of the word

1177
00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:31,770
Piniella it turns into pizza oh yeah of

1178
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:32,070
course

1179
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:34,170
so that's you know obviously a

1180
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:36,150
connection to pizza gate some kind of

1181
00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:38,520
secret message by choosing a replacement

1182
00:49:43,570 --> 00:49:41,940
with the last name pizza I suppose pizza

1183
00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:43,580
Gates you know it's been overshadowed by

1184
00:49:49,690 --> 00:49:45,660
other things but I think in a way like

1185
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:49,700
Epstein's you know with the pedophilia

1186
00:49:55,550 --> 00:49:52,530
Lynx's could have probably brought that

1187
00:49:57,890 --> 00:49:55,560
back to a degree yeah and it's

1188
00:49:59,630 --> 00:49:57,900
interesting because nobody in nobody

1189
00:50:02,150 --> 00:49:59,640
none of the big pizza gate for sure were

1190
00:50:04,430 --> 00:50:02,160
we're talking about up steam until he

1191
00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:04,440
became new now if it was always Hillary

1192
00:50:11,420 --> 00:50:07,440
and John Podesta in the big Washington

1193
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:11,430
DC a lead ya know epsteen epsteen was

1194
00:50:16,610 --> 00:50:14,400
sort of his own conspiracy theory but

1195
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,620
it's interesting how we continue to see

1196
00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:18,960
kind of the echoes of pizza gate even

1197
00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:21,660
though that's really kind of fizzled out

1198
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:23,550
because their pizza gate was just too

1199
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:25,890
narrow to be able to really be sustained

1200
00:50:31,550 --> 00:50:29,280
it was really only about that one place

1201
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:31,560
and of course then you killin like all

1202
00:50:35,300 --> 00:50:33,690
human trafficking is pizza gate pizza

1203
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:35,310
gate means human trafficking no pizza

1204
00:50:40,940 --> 00:50:38,220
gate means this one thing human

1205
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:40,950
trafficking right right human

1206
00:50:47,210 --> 00:50:42,810
trafficking is it is it different

1207
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:47,220
damn yeah yeah alright let's let's talk

1208
00:50:51,710 --> 00:50:49,770
about your book yeah you book the

1209
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:51,720
world's worst conspiracy theories coming

1210
00:50:57,980 --> 00:50:55,410
out yes in October October 13th and we

1211
00:50:59,540 --> 00:50:57,990
are coming up a compilation of the most

1212
00:51:02,779 --> 00:50:59,550
fascinating bizarre and compelling

1213
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,789
conspiracy theories in the world today

1214
00:51:06,049 --> 00:51:04,319
the title the world's worst conspiracy

1215
00:51:07,849 --> 00:51:06,059
if there is my wife asked what does that

1216
00:51:10,549 --> 00:51:07,859
mean is this is this really crappy

1217
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:10,559
conspiracy theories really really evil

1218
00:51:17,630 --> 00:51:14,249
conspiracy theories I think what it

1219
00:51:19,729 --> 00:51:17,640
means is the ones that have kind of fact

1220
00:51:22,669 --> 00:51:19,739
that are thinking the most the ones that

1221
00:51:24,529 --> 00:51:22,679
have served worm their way into our

1222
00:51:26,630 --> 00:51:24,539
brains the most and have done the most

1223
00:51:29,630 --> 00:51:26,640
damage to our ability to sift through

1224
00:51:32,179 --> 00:51:29,640
information you know I I would say that

1225
00:51:35,029 --> 00:51:32,189
some of them are a little more harmless

1226
00:51:37,069 --> 00:51:35,039
than others but then you have one of the

1227
00:51:40,609 --> 00:51:37,079
ones I wrote about is the false flag

1228
00:51:42,380 --> 00:51:40,619
stick that's that's been incredibly

1229
00:51:44,289 --> 00:51:42,390
hurtful thing for mass shooting

1230
00:51:47,569 --> 00:51:44,299
survivors this idea that they're all

1231
00:51:49,279 --> 00:51:47,579
crisis actors in the stage conspiracy

1232
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:49,289
theory that's that's been it's done a

1233
00:51:54,140 --> 00:51:52,049
lot of damage to victims you you know

1234
00:51:56,169 --> 00:51:54,150
the some of the other ones are things

1235
00:51:59,059 --> 00:51:56,179
like Martin Luther King jr.

1236
00:52:00,769 --> 00:51:59,069
assassination that's one that's that's

1237
00:52:02,749 --> 00:52:00,779
stuck with us for decades and really

1238
00:52:06,739 --> 00:52:02,759
eroded a lot of our trust in the

1239
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:06,749
government and you have things like you

1240
00:52:10,789 --> 00:52:08,729
know some vaccine stuff and you have

1241
00:52:13,429 --> 00:52:10,799
medical conspiracies that really hurt

1242
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:13,439
people we've done a lot of damage you

1243
00:52:18,620 --> 00:52:15,599
know and things like another one I wrote

1244
00:52:20,029 --> 00:52:18,630
about with the mh370 which you know

1245
00:52:21,620 --> 00:52:20,039
there there's never been any closure

1246
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:21,630
with that and I think the conspiracy

1247
00:52:26,449 --> 00:52:23,130
theories it only serve to muddy the

1248
00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:26,459
waters there so but what the book is is

1249
00:52:29,569 --> 00:52:27,630
it's it's twenty five of these

1250
00:52:31,099 --> 00:52:29,579
conspiracy theories and what it is is

1251
00:52:32,659 --> 00:52:31,109
it's basically an introduction if you

1252
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:32,669
don't really know anything about them

1253
00:52:37,399 --> 00:52:35,130
but maybe you've heard a little bit what

1254
00:52:40,489 --> 00:52:37,409
I'm what I do is I introduce it how to

1255
00:52:41,929 --> 00:52:40,499
set it up go through why people believe

1256
00:52:43,339 --> 00:52:41,939
in some of the some of the field

1257
00:52:45,529 --> 00:52:43,349
discrepancies and some of the real

1258
00:52:48,859 --> 00:52:45,539
problems that have come off and then why

1259
00:52:51,949 --> 00:52:48,869
ultimately answer that we've always had

1260
00:52:53,959 --> 00:52:51,959
is almost always the real answer and why

1261
00:52:58,579 --> 00:52:53,969
ultimately the conspiracy theory doesn't

1262
00:53:00,109 --> 00:52:58,589
really stand up excuse me yeah you have

1263
00:53:01,999 --> 00:53:00,119
have some interesting things just

1264
00:53:03,439 --> 00:53:02,009
looking at the description on on Amazon

1265
00:53:07,299 --> 00:53:03,449
and as you said it is available for

1266
00:53:13,099 --> 00:53:07,309
pre-order right now the link up Eric not

1267
00:53:16,810 --> 00:53:13,109
yep you have the sinister experiments at

1268
00:53:20,370 --> 00:53:16,820
CERN that us so sir

1269
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:20,380
is the International Atomic Research

1270
00:53:24,510 --> 00:53:22,640
Organisation and they're the ones you

1271
00:53:26,770 --> 00:53:24,520
have the Large Hadron Collider

1272
00:53:28,420 --> 00:53:26,780
underground between the sorts of London

1273
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:28,430
France and you've got all kinds of

1274
00:53:32,530 --> 00:53:30,770
rumors that they were opening up a

1275
00:53:36,190 --> 00:53:32,540
portal to hell and that they were doing

1276
00:53:38,770 --> 00:53:36,200
demonic sacrifices and you know they

1277
00:53:40,540 --> 00:53:38,780
were bringing evil beings into the world

1278
00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:40,550
and you know this is one of those ones

1279
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:43,790
that the belief in it is fairly harmless

1280
00:53:48,430 --> 00:53:46,370
I mean no one's going to CERN to shoot

1281
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:48,440
the place out but I think something like

1282
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:50,570
that what it does is it really obscures

1283
00:53:55,810 --> 00:53:53,690
the really interesting stuff and there's

1284
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:55,820
a lot of really amazing science going on

1285
00:53:59,800 --> 00:53:58,010
at CERN and unfortunately the thing that

1286
00:54:01,780 --> 00:53:59,810
people want to talk about it experience

1287
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:01,790
so one of the things I talk about in

1288
00:54:05,050 --> 00:54:04,010
that book chapter is how they you know

1289
00:54:07,090 --> 00:54:05,060
they've gotten closer to discovering

1290
00:54:09,250 --> 00:54:07,100
some of these difficult Big Bang

1291
00:54:11,170 --> 00:54:09,260
particles and they've done a really

1292
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:11,180
pioneering experience with fusion and

1293
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:13,040
then making really cool stuff but do you

1294
00:54:17,170 --> 00:54:15,410
think that stuff that people even don't

1295
00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:17,180
have a science background really get

1296
00:54:22,930 --> 00:54:20,350
into but unfortunately all we get is the

1297
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:22,940
conspiracy stuff from the demonic stuff

1298
00:54:29,170 --> 00:54:25,970
and that's the thing that that people

1299
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:29,180
get attached to and the really

1300
00:54:33,370 --> 00:54:31,490
interesting stuff is not it's just not

1301
00:54:36,070 --> 00:54:33,380
quite as compelling it's not as great a

1302
00:54:39,340 --> 00:54:36,080
story didn't they put on like some kind

1303
00:54:41,950 --> 00:54:39,350
of play a CERN which had like demon

1304
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:41,960
demonic figures yeah they're in that God

1305
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:43,970
when around YouTube and the people in

1306
00:54:50,350 --> 00:54:48,110
CERN I do it's was just you know it's

1307
00:54:52,180 --> 00:54:50,360
just sort of it's just kind of wasting

1308
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:52,190
people it's sad it's sad that it's

1309
00:54:54,730 --> 00:54:53,330
distracting because like you say the

1310
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:54,740
CERN is like really interesting

1311
00:54:59,590 --> 00:54:57,530
groundbreaking real science and the

1312
00:55:00,820 --> 00:54:59,600
people that work at CERN had imagined a

1313
00:55:02,380 --> 00:55:00,830
role just you know there's a regular

1314
00:55:04,690 --> 00:55:02,390
people there the regular variety of

1315
00:55:06,990 --> 00:55:04,700
people that you get anywhere and that

1316
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:07,000
they're doing they're doing good work

1317
00:55:13,930 --> 00:55:12,530
yeah yeah that's you talk about the

1318
00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:13,940
emergence of the New World Order this is

1319
00:55:18,370 --> 00:55:15,950
almost like a favorite one of my dude do

1320
00:55:20,650 --> 00:55:18,380
you is this something like a deep

1321
00:55:22,450 --> 00:55:20,660
historical look at the the idea of the

1322
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:22,460
New World Order or the more more recent

1323
00:55:26,650 --> 00:55:24,710
yeah I touch a little bit on the history

1324
00:55:27,860 --> 00:55:26,660
but I what I'm really getting into in

1325
00:55:31,690 --> 00:55:27,870
the book chapter is

1326
00:55:35,390 --> 00:55:31,700
specific 90s version of the real order

1327
00:55:38,570 --> 00:55:35,400
the George HW Bush speech then sort of

1328
00:55:39,530 --> 00:55:38,580
the links with some of the anti UN's

1329
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:39,540
stuff and then some of the

1330
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:41,370
anti-government stuff for the early 90s

1331
00:55:48,170 --> 00:55:45,510
and how we've always kind of had a New

1332
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:48,180
World Order boogeyman you know whether

1333
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:51,810
that's now is in the deep state you know

1334
00:55:56,300 --> 00:55:53,910
before that was New World Order and then

1335
00:55:57,620 --> 00:55:56,310
before that it was like Trilateral

1336
00:56:00,880 --> 00:55:57,630
Commission and the Council on Foreign

1337
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:00,890
Relations there's always some big

1338
00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:04,170
governmental engine that's conspiring

1339
00:56:06,770 --> 00:56:06,090
against us and we just give it different

1340
00:56:09,230 --> 00:56:06,780
names

1341
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:09,240
yeah the United Nations and before the

1342
00:56:19,790 --> 00:56:15,090
Communists and the Masons what do you

1343
00:56:21,830 --> 00:56:19,800
talk about agenda 21 in the book I think

1344
00:56:23,870 --> 00:56:21,840
I do yeah you know I wrote most of the

1345
00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:23,880
book at the beginning of the years go

1346
00:56:28,940 --> 00:56:26,910
fuzzy but I mean I've done a lot of

1347
00:56:31,460 --> 00:56:28,950
writing about agenda 21 and kind of what

1348
00:56:35,330 --> 00:56:31,470
what it means and why people have been

1349
00:56:36,980 --> 00:56:35,340
oh yeah there is a chapter you know what

1350
00:56:38,660 --> 00:56:36,990
it means and why people are creative it

1351
00:56:42,370 --> 00:56:38,670
and then what it really means and how it

1352
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:42,380
got big and conspiracy theory movements

1353
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:46,650
and how it's you know really not

1354
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:48,090
anything to be afraid of it's this

1355
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:51,690
non-binding UN resolution that's not

1356
00:56:56,900 --> 00:56:54,690
there's no legal enforcement mechanism

1357
00:56:59,240 --> 00:56:56,910
for it you're not gonna have like agenda

1358
00:57:01,850 --> 00:56:59,250
21 stormtroopers knocking down your door

1359
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:01,860
if you left your lights on but going

1360
00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:04,050
back got a hold of it and it turned it

1361
00:57:08,180 --> 00:57:06,150
into a moneymaker and so that is I think

1362
00:57:11,930 --> 00:57:08,190
it's really instructive to look at how

1363
00:57:14,830 --> 00:57:11,940
these very banal concepts get monetized

1364
00:57:17,060 --> 00:57:14,840
by the private big conspiracy people oh

1365
00:57:18,590 --> 00:57:17,070
yeah I mean that's like with a certain

1366
00:57:21,110 --> 00:57:18,600
thing you certainly should try to get a

1367
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:21,120
regular science experiment yeah agenda

1368
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:24,000
21 is just a bunch of people in the

1369
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:28,290
United Nations trying to figure out what

1370
00:57:31,550 --> 00:57:30,330
it would take to have sustainable

1371
00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:31,560
development in about twenty first

1372
00:57:37,090 --> 00:57:35,430
century and maybe drive a little bit

1373
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:37,100
less and

1374
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:42,650
neat and yeah and some world some

1375
00:57:46,690 --> 00:57:44,480
cleaner fuel sources and then it gets

1376
00:57:48,730 --> 00:57:46,700
turned into the government's gonna take

1377
00:57:51,790 --> 00:57:48,740
away your right to travel and flower

1378
00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:51,800
golf courses into habitats for the

1379
00:57:56,860 --> 00:57:54,350
homeless I mean it's just it's G and

1380
00:57:59,290 --> 00:57:56,870
this stuff you know gummed up

1381
00:58:02,410 --> 00:57:59,300
you know city council meetings for years

1382
00:58:04,180 --> 00:58:02,420
oh yeah we're going out there yep didn't

1383
00:58:08,350 --> 00:58:04,190
want the new walking path because it was

1384
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:08,360
agenda 21 yeah it's that so which wish

1385
00:58:11,110 --> 00:58:09,410
wish would you say is your favorite

1386
00:58:16,060 --> 00:58:11,120
conspiracy out of the ones in your book

1387
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:16,070
oh man um I really like I actually

1388
00:58:20,860 --> 00:58:18,170
really like talking about the clinton

1389
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:20,870
body that's one of my favorites it's so

1390
00:58:29,050 --> 00:58:24,890
it is such a concrete origin and it has

1391
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:29,060
such a traceable path and it's 30 years

1392
00:58:35,050 --> 00:58:32,330
old now and it's still you know right

1393
00:58:36,460 --> 00:58:35,060
there I mean we Neptune died it was not

1394
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:36,470
one of the number one hashtags enjoy oh

1395
00:58:42,550 --> 00:58:40,000
yeah like this is this is it's very

1396
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:42,560
instructive for how this stuff just

1397
00:58:47,290 --> 00:58:44,570
never goes away and why it's gotta be

1398
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:47,300
taken seriously yeah

1399
00:58:53,770 --> 00:58:49,490
so what would be your least favorite of

1400
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:53,780
the classified conspiracies oh you know

1401
00:58:58,780 --> 00:58:56,690
I think just the I did I did a chapter

1402
00:59:01,780 --> 00:58:58,790
on sort of where the Trump and Russia

1403
00:59:03,070 --> 00:59:01,790
thing was and and I think that's really

1404
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:03,080
interesting I think it's interesting to

1405
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:04,850
look at that as sort of the difference

1406
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:07,250
between conspiracy and conspiracy theory

1407
00:59:12,580 --> 00:59:10,490
but I think I think everybody got a

1408
00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:12,590
little over he did with it and I think

1409
00:59:18,790 --> 00:59:16,390
we all spent a little bit too much time

1410
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:18,800
either on the right trying to knock it

1411
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:20,330
down or on the left trying to pump it

1412
00:59:24,460 --> 00:59:23,090
off and you know it really should have

1413
00:59:27,250 --> 00:59:24,470
been kind of obvious from the very

1414
00:59:29,530 --> 00:59:27,260
beginning that Donald Trump had some

1415
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:29,540
shady connections with Russia I mean you

1416
00:59:35,770 --> 00:59:32,090
never really hit it and I really don't I

1417
00:59:38,350 --> 00:59:35,780
really dislike the way Trump fans have

1418
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:38,360
just waved it all away and I also really

1419
00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:40,450
dislike the way people on the Left have

1420
00:59:46,060 --> 00:59:42,260
decided that it was going to be the

1421
00:59:48,580 --> 00:59:46,070
thing that brings him down yeah yeah cuz

1422
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:48,590
they were never gonna oh they never were

1423
00:59:52,569 --> 00:59:51,200
able to pin anything on him no

1424
00:59:53,470 --> 00:59:52,579
obviously he said was going to do

1425
00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:53,480
something like that they're gonna be

1426
00:59:57,789 --> 00:59:55,910
very careful about it but they're like

1427
01:00:01,059 --> 00:59:57,799
you know the investigation did result in

1428
01:00:03,069 --> 01:00:01,069
a lot of convictions okay they're

1429
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:03,079
unrelated charges but yeah there's

1430
01:00:08,049 --> 01:00:06,319
clearly a lot of you know wobbling and

1431
01:00:10,180 --> 01:00:08,059
it's been going up we clearly along

1432
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:10,190
machines and I think we're still

1433
01:00:15,940 --> 01:00:13,250
unpacking it and it ended before we

1434
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:15,950
really feel yeah yeah well time will

1435
01:00:20,710 --> 01:00:17,410
tell hopefully

1436
01:00:22,569 --> 01:00:20,720
all right Mike so I guess people can

1437
01:00:26,170 --> 01:00:22,579
follow you on twitter

1438
01:00:28,870 --> 01:00:26,180
Mike Rothschild MD uh just Rothschild oh

1439
01:00:30,579 --> 01:00:28,880
it's my last name and my a two initials

1440
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:30,589
are not a doctor yes

1441
01:00:34,420 --> 01:00:32,720
Rothschild MD and this links to your

1442
01:00:37,349 --> 01:00:34,430
book there which is the world's words

1443
01:00:41,260 --> 01:00:37,359
conspiracies by Mike Ross child get on

1444
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:41,270
it gonna be on Kindle eBook you know I

1445
01:00:48,579 --> 01:00:46,130
need to I need to get some of that stuff

1446
01:00:50,620 --> 01:00:48,589
straight not I think I'd be its

1447
01:00:52,210 --> 01:00:50,630
pre-order of the hardcover right now so

1448
01:00:55,030 --> 01:00:52,220
yeah I'd imagine you'd have an e-book as

1449
01:00:56,890 --> 01:00:55,040
well I wouldn't yeah all right

1450
01:00:58,990 --> 01:00:56,900
well it's been very very interesting

1451
01:01:01,390 --> 01:00:59,000
anything any last thoughts before we go

1452
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:01,400
oh I just uh

1453
01:01:06,430 --> 01:01:03,650
as always you know when you see this

1454
01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:06,440
stuff in the media think about it before

1455
01:01:10,450 --> 01:01:08,960
you share it don't don't retweet it

1456
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:10,460
without reading it don't share they

1457
01:01:14,109 --> 01:01:12,559
spoke without reading it if you don't

1458
01:01:18,700 --> 01:01:14,119
think it makes sense it probably doesn't

1459
01:01:21,430 --> 01:01:18,710
make sense and yeah just just always be

1460
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:21,440
thinking critical in days yes